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AFKCloaked AltSpy
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Posted - 2011.09.23 15:56:00 -
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If I have said it once I have said it a thousand time, neither the CSM nor the player base has the right nor the proper information to try to tell CCP how to macromanage their company.
You can tell CCP what you would like to see in game all you want. Have fun with it.
People get really upset at hearing this for some reason, I suppose passion for the game. So tell them what you want in game. Vehemently. Make a thread with a quarter million likes.
But as soon as you tell them how to do it, you are crossing the line.
I.E. let developers develop. Tell them what you want to see developed. As long as its not gold ammo or bypasses industry, I could give 2 *****. Let the managers manage. If you can manage better than them, become one. |
AFKCloaked AltSpy
MasterMined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.09.23 16:45:00 -
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Cearain wrote:AFKCloaked AltSpy wrote:If I have said it once I have said it a thousand time, neither the CSM nor the player base has the right nor the proper information to try to tell CCP how to macromanage their company.
You can tell CCP what you would like to see in game all you want. Have fun with it.
People get really upset at hearing this for some reason, I suppose passion for the game. So tell them what you want in game. Vehemently. Make a thread with a quarter million likes.
But as soon as you tell them how to do it, you are crossing the line.
I.E. let developers develop. Tell them what you want to see developed. As long as its not gold ammo or bypasses industry, I could give 2 *****. Let the managers manage. If you can manage better than them, become one. I don't want them to continue to assign all of their devs to things other than eve. If they continue to do that they will continue to put out crap expansions and the game will suffer. I am perfectly within my rights to say this. Why would you even suggest people do not have a *right* to say this?
You don't know what devs or employees were hired for for what jobs. You dont know what resources were allocated to what tasks and in what timeframe.
In short, you have as much right to tell CCP management how to do their job as I have to tell you to do yours. |
AFKCloaked AltSpy
MasterMined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.09.23 18:10:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:AFKCloaked AltSpy wrote:In short, you have as much right to tell CCP management how to do their job as I have to tell you to do yours. Wow you're dumb. CCP formed the CSM to provide them with feedback and guidance on future development of the game.
If I am dumb, your stupidity is legendary. I already agreed to what you said. Development of the game, not the management of CCP.
Those are 2 things that are unambiguously not the same thing. ******* derp.
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Yes I do know where the resources have been allocated. They gave a dev blog about it and an 18 month timeframe 2 years ago. In the last summit minutes they said they wouldn't be making changes to it. Get a clue.
How many of their employees are developers?
When were they hired?
How many of those developers were hired to work on Eve?
How many of those developers are working on Eve?
How much money is allocated to the development of Eve?
Yeah, you know the pertinent information. |
AFKCloaked AltSpy
MasterMined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.09.23 18:23:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:AFKCloaked AltSpy wrote:If I am dumb, your stupidity is legendary. I already agreed to what you said. Development of the game, not the management of CCP.
Those are 2 things that are unambiguously not the same thing. ******* derp. I see. So in your fantasy world the CCP developers work independently of CCP management. That makes perfect sense.
Right. the developers manage the company, obviously.
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AFKCloaked AltSpy
MasterMined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.09.23 19:07:00 -
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Ladie Scarlet wrote:AFKCloaked AltSpy wrote:Right. the developers manage the company, obviously. I wish I worked for a company where the management didn't tell me what to do. Are you really this stupid?
Are you?
Your customers do not dictate to your manager how you should do your job, nor anyone else. They dictate the parameters of what they desire in the product or service your company provides.
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AFKCloaked AltSpy
MasterMined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.09.24 14:43:00 -
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Grateler wrote:
No one is telling the how to do anything but telling them what needs fixing.
Not sure where your comments are coming from....
Yes, Mittins has directly come out and said he was trying to manipulate the macro management of CCP. And Trebor again directly states it in the original thread 'CSM Statement regarding CCP refocusing'. Try to keep up.
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AFKCloaked AltSpy
MasterMined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:06:00 -
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White Tree wrote:Check out all these whineposts lmao.
You do represent us after all. I hear that all time. So why don't you quit whining?
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